Vendor lock-in, AWS, and keeping up with the DevOps world

Viktor Farcic: With the companies you work with, do they express concern about vendor lock-in, for example, when they go to Amazon?

Sean Hull: Yes, actually I think a number of years have passed since a lot of companies were locked in with Oracle, and so much time has passed that there's a new generation of folks that haven't been bitten by that. I sense that there's less fear right now around Amazon lock-in than maybe there should be. There are tools like Terraform that can plug into Google Cloud; it can talk to the IBM Cloud, Azure, and AWS, among others, so you can deploy resources in any of those clouds if you've built your infrastructure code in Terraform. Terraform is like a layer on top of CloudFormation that implements that stuff in a generic way.

Viktor Farcic: What's your take on container schedulers: Kubernetes, Mesos, Swarm, and so on?

Sean Hull: I haven't done much with...